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Best Value (Race 9) - 3. Has had the best L200m in her last three starts and just keeps attacking the line. PROFIT- Not dropping off this horse. Had the wide gate, very wet track and it was simply a tick over run at the end of the day. The EAGLE FARM card is decent but the bookies haven’t missed any and I don’t see any real value anywhere. Getting short now, but $2. Again, not a big preview. TRIAL REVIEWS where I pick out the best trials and horses to follow (with replays attached). Designed specifically for horses competing in non-TAB events, the final will focus the national spotlight on our leading country participants during the 2018 Queensland. Then only beaten 1. Without Revenge. Good stable and fitter for recent racing. I won't go into detail on the Q22. Thought EMPEROR could win race 2 in Sydney but only $2. Other than that, might just give Quaddie thoughts for Flemington. Orman - 12 wins fromGCTC form page. 7-BEEF WEEK PRINCESS. Maps are important at those places and I just find it so much easier to find winners than EF. Not the easiest day, thought Race 8 #1 AMICUS CURIAE might be an e/w play around the $7. Lots of changes overnight and as you will see a lot of new faces, banners on the site. " @brissyraces explains why each horse can & can't win Saturday's feature. I got through the first four races but the first three interested me the most. Bring on the summer series! One of the shining lights in a bit of a shit fight which is QLD racing is the Summer Series, it is getting better all the time and this year shapes as a cracking carnival. BrissyRaces!Gemma's Son confirmed his status as Western Australia's best juvenile by extending his unbeaten career in today's $250,000 Magic Millions WA 2YO Classic (RL, 1200m) at Pinjarra. In the 2015-16 Season, the leading two BOBS horses, Pioneering and Sir Bacchus, amassed just $70,000 each in BOBS bonus prizemoney. RACING. Tony felt this colt had a lot of presence – there was “something definitely about him”. He has a very bright future and I will be trying to keep in touch to make sure brissyraces is always up to date with the latest in Luke’s career. I will add all the links and then some tips that interest me most over the weekend. A. Race : DOOMBEN CUP 2020m Favourites: TheFine weather all week and we will be on a firm EF track. Her only go at 1400m wasFALVELON is another Glenlogan Park sire that has tasted good interstate success during the past week, with a couple of impressive victors in NSW flying the flag for him. All this as well as Blackbookers, Sectional Stars and tips of course, EVERY WEEK FREE. com. Early Thoughts. If you get the chance to support them that would be great. Blackbookers. 5%. . WANT TO MENTION MY NEW PODCAST (TWO FLOGS)- Not racing based, with a good mate. 50/$2 QUADDIE: 1,6,8,9,14 1,4,5,6,9,11 2 4,11,13,18 CAULFIELD: Best Bet: Race 7 #3 STEPARTYYou can keep this day, I’ll be lucky to open the wallet. STEVEN PRICE SADDLES UP OUTBACK SPIRIT (outback prince the sire from clear mountain fairview is pictured). gibbos best: race 2 #1 hard to say $5. Blackbookers, sectional stars and trial reviews all on the one page. Saturday on ‘The Punt’. We talk about life growing up in our countryLooks a very interesting race after the barrier draw. Just a bit of a look at some of the features. . CONTREARAS $8 into $3. In saying that, I was probably happy to get our cash back instead of them going around on a Heavy 10. A. 50. CHINNY BOOM – Absolutely pissed in at Mackay and it’s a very good one. Iowa. 1-zaaki. I expect him to rise rapidly when he takes up his spot at Eagle Farm in some new boxes not long after the. Email Marketing by AWeber. Tabcorp and Racing Queensland sign agreement Tabcorp Holdings Limited and Racing Queensland are pleased to have signed a deed of understanding in the context of the proposed combination of Tabcorp and Tatts Group. VIEW ALL RACE SELECTIONS. Best Value (Race 7) - 7. Deepour. 4L faster than benchmark and he gave an almighty kick. Gibbo’s Tips page: Gibbo’s Tips – Aquis Gold Coast Turf Club (gctc. com. *Dale Missen has been rubbed out for 12 months from aRT @Racing: "Genuine Group 1 horse who doesn’t mind a fight. Subscribe to BrissyRaces! Name: Email: We respect your email privacy. Have to give the Furphy Goodwood a split decision as a better race than the 10,000 but not a lot between them. READILY REWARDED is. On holidays and had a little time to do something different. Here are some to follow. Best Bet (Race 7) - 7. The quality stock brought top prices and it was a good, solid sale. *Some of these might be updated as we get closer. Email Marketing by AWeber. I think it’s fantastic they get a big prizemoney race for the country trainers to target and aim for. I'm never a fan of betting on wet ground. This track will play good and it looks a really strong betting day with good weather around. A private vet was called to a sick horse on a property at Kerry, nearThings like stats articles and my blackbook. People want to get out and about and a good race program can swing aA decent sort of Derby this year. Gee the Slipper looks a lottery, both races look even and confidence not high, but here's my numbers. BALLISTIC BOY doesn’t know how to run a bad race. The QLD training premiership has been Rob Heathcote’s for years now, this year has been different with Gollan and Dunn dominating the middle part of the season and opening a lead, that is until now. Tavi Time . COM have the race by race preview of the sunny coast. Race 5 SEISME and Race 7 TYCOON TORI can both run well and be hard to beat. The performanceMassive days racing. She should have won the first but held up at the 100m. FRIDAY SUNNY COAST: SATURDAY DOOMBEN: Up after scratching’s * Race 1: Raced brigade usually have an advantage. Keeps winning and has upside. ThereFor those who haven’t checked it out yet, here is just one thing you get at the page. In the zone and worth seeing where […]Initial thoughts here were with the cheap purchase SUBRISING $21. Congratulations to all the connections of the winners of the Qtis races and it is another great advertisementVale Gary Palmer Racing Queensland offers its sincerest condolences to the family and friends of Mr Gary Palmer, who passed away on Saturday night. Maps better with top jock going on . I will start with some in QLD and then some that might interest in Melbourne. LADY BANFF just on top of TICK TOCK BOOM and YES YUP YAY best of those on debut. (Hopefully punters may have taken the steer into Dunaden or the trifecta in our Spechenka article as he did look a good thing) Thegibbos best: race 4 #10 influential $4. He was racing first-up since winning the LR Ramornie Hcp at Grafton in July. The Robert Heathcote-trained gelding had a great four-year-old season racing in some of the country’s top features, including a win in the Group 3 McEwan Stakes. COM […]PINK RIBBON RACEDAY and it shapes as a great race day. Best Bet (Race 6) - 1. Something a bit different this week. Much happier to have a look back after a good weekend. She will be a winning result for me. Race 4 #2 OCEANIC FLASH $3. Also make sure to follow @GCTurfClub on Twitter as I may be doing some lateBlair Gibson @brissyraces 31 December, 2022 31 December, 2022. Carlton Mid Cairns Amateurs Carnival is pleased to announce the appointment of prominent equestrian and media personality, Jo McKinnon, as ambassador for the region’s biggest racing and fashion event of the year. A. 25 Happy to take black figures but notBlair Gibson @brissyraces 22 April, 2023 22 April, 2023. Thought FOXY FRIDA in the big race was worth something at the $13 but not sure i’ll invest anywhere else. A. 40 holds up. Don’t forget to ‘LIKE’ our Facebook page, follow @brissyraces on Twitter and Sign up to our FREE newsletter if you are interested (Right hand side of this page, green box) Tweets by @brissyraces. 10. Furphy should maybe be the Brissyraces site beer of choice? If nobody else beats them to it. ALLUP- Race 4 #6 INASEC + Race 6 #7 VODKA MARTINI Thats about all that interest. Well start of a new financial year, getting to the end of a racing season but all systems go for Brissyraces and you guys who enjoy the site. Not the greatest Cox plate we've seen but a hell of a lot better than the Manikato a day before! Let's go through the runners and I'll give my opinion (for whatever that is worth). Not that keen on the day at EF. 5-TAMBO’S MATE. About Gibbo; Contact Gibbo; SPONSORS; Trainers;Fields and draws are out early for the weekend. Not a best but, Also think Race 6 ENTERPRISE FUSE (Place around $6-7 worth a small play)GCTC Gibbo’s tips. Mostly […]Wasn't a bad weekend but could have been a bit better. Best Value (Race 2) - 1. It's been hard for tipsters with constant wet weather. Stakes winning two-year-old Choistar will join the stallion roster at Clear Mountain Fairview as a freshman sire for the 2011 breeding season. p. com. Race 3 every single horse was at least 6 off the fence the entire straight. Hopefully some drying weather leading into the GC meeting as we have again had a heap of rain. Don’t love the day by any means. Does he let down? Most likely but even though I think he's the best horse in oz I can't bet when IHaydon racing- Have read and follow these guys! Gday everyone, I’m sure everybody remembers Tony Haydon, yep Black Caviars best mate, he travelled her, cared for her and was a big part of the team. Miss Faberge. au Prev Next Saturday racing Not an easy day but here are the links legends and might add more interstate if i get a chance. There is a big chance ARTORIOUS could be 5-6 back buried on the fence and needing aWell it rained nearly everywhere on the weekend and we lost a lot of races from Brisbane and the Gold Coast which wasn't ideal. The agreement provides greater certainty for Racing Queensland in relation to the benefits that the proposed Tabcorp. Good to see we have found some good form in recent weeks and no coincidence it coincides with punting at the Gold Coast and Doomben. Well Tony and his wife Marni are now on the Sunshine coast and looking to build the team. Before people blow up, no, I am not against country racing. A very eye-catching, striking colt. How are we meant to know and have confidence to bet when after years the jocks still have absolutely no idea. Looks as though the weather gods may finally play the game and the rain will stay away. A. Another 3/3 on the weekend. I just think everything points to the fav so it might be exotics many people play. About Gibbo;We haven’t done a ‘One on One’ interview for a while. EF Race 6 #9 SOLIDIFY $5/$2. By Golden Slipper winner STRATUM who also sired Golden Slipper winner Crystal Lilly. 40 favourite with bookmakers, the son of Snippetson was strong to the line after leading throughout and repelling challengers in the straight. 50. Brissy Races Gibbo's brissyraces. VIEW ALL RACE SELECTIONS . But just a lean to COCO SUN at the $34/$7. Don't like the Sunny Coast card at all! Huge fields, even horses and not really get involved over the whole weekend. Here is a sample of what the trial report from yesterday […]CLANG'S BACK TO BACK EYE LINERS Willowbend Stud is celebrating after Clang's son, Adnocon took out the Listed $176,500 Ipswich Eye Liner (1350m)for the second consecutive year. Race 1 #12 KINETIC. As part of her 2015 ambassador role, Ms McKinnon will attend race days and events including the. 50/$2. 40. **Also for the new members who have come aboard brissyraces, the punting side of the site is a full Brisbane- Saturday preview including blackbookers etc will be up on Friday afternoon from around 4pm and is called “THE PUNT”. The BATTLE OF THE BUSH on Tatts Tiara day is just a waste in my opinion. Track will be a Good 4 I’d say. Hard To Say. NIGHT OF NIGHTS RQ AWARDS The 2011/12 racing season was capped off with the announcement of Buffering (pictured) as the Queensland Horse of the Year last night. He’s a very good horse on his day and not much has gone right this prep. Gotta try and back it up. We have soft tracks one week then firmer the next and that has been the cycle. It’s a rubbish race and any one of about 10 horses could win. Big weekend ahead, as you’d have seen with the webpage this week I’m way out of my lane and have looked at the interstate races. 1-ZAAKI- One of my favourite horses but what do we. Purchased for $110,000. Here is my take on the two year old race this year. I've done this on a very wet track, forecast says it will be very heavy again. Next Best (Race 5) - 4. 60. It’s a good weekend of racing throughout Australia. A. We have been flying at the Gold Coast Turf Clubs page recently. I just think we’ve tried to copy racing nsw and have missed. This January 26th, make the most of yourBlair Gibson @brissyraces 4 March, 2023 4 March, 2023. Race 7 #9 STAR GAMBLE $7. He had the big weight and the tactics were strange. Tierqualo (pictured courtesy Dan Costello Racing) had. Gibbo’s Murwillumbah Cup preview 2022: 1-GIANNIS- Former G1 placegetter for Waller who completely lostSo nice to have a dry week in south east Qld. We have kept the good run going with the EARLY LOOK previews for Racing. Last start was in the G3 Healy where he was beaten three lengths but ran the best last 200m of. We were able to tip the winners in races 2,3,4,5,6 on RACING. Not a bad story about how the beer got it’s name actually but that’s for another day. That is my only issue with the whole meeting. One of our great supporters on Brissyraces is Troy Corstens and Malua Racing. 11-MONTE DI ROSE. One of my favourite trainers in QLD is the down to earth and very astute and Group 1 winning trainer Nat McCall. We have enjoyed a good run and hopefully I can help you in your endeavours to find a few winnersOnce again our Magic Millions June National sales results have been phenomenal, especially when compared with others around the Country. Comes out of a better race than this and gets Orman on top. Back in trip helps too. au) RANDWICK QUADDIE: Races 7-8-9-10 1,3,10 1,5,9 2,5,7,15 3,4,10 CAULFIELD QUADDIE: Races 7-8-9-10 Obviously the first leg is the one you can cut back on here. I felt MIRACLE DAY was about the best wet tracker on the card so will be having something onTime to look at the Doomben Cup. Rubamos. I'm just hoping for a rough. . Looks a good days racing with big field here. Here are the previews and you can make of them what you like. It was the second year in a row that the winnerMassive day, I've had a little drama with the setup of the website so I'll try to keep it as neat as I can. *Blackbookers weekly. Good day Wednesday, shit day Thursday. An outstanding first season sire prospect, Choistar possesses the whole package for breeders - pedigree, performance and conformation. Touted as Australia’s hottest racing,Extremely frank rundown of the card. Blair Gibson @brissyraces 5 November, 2022 5 November, 2022. Some success late in the day last week with the best bet winning at decent odds and there were plenty in the market win all around the country. 36 L200m and the winner was the only other one to break 12sec. The only son of Choisir to stand in Queensland, Choistar collected Black. Other links :::: Tweets by @brissyraces. *The best from the sectionals weekly. 11. au) Tweets by @brissyraces. With the Group 1 Doomben Cup and Queensland Derby swelling the million-dollar Winter Carnival features from five to seven, ‘Stradbroke Season’ will receive majorWe seen an extremely good galloper in Dunaden take out the Geelong Cup in sensational style today. The Gold Coast and Doomben will be good tracks with the rail in decent spots and we should be around the money all day hopefully. Thoroughbred Breeder’s Queensland Association President Basil Nolan is urging breeders not to panic in the wake of this latest Hendra Virus outbreak. Instead went 7L quicker thanAs people would have spotted on the left hand side of the page we have a few stables on this year and I thought I’d take a moment to let […]With a heap of rain predicted it's hard to be too keen on the South Qld racing. Pages. Best Bet (Race 9) - 11. The TRIAL REVIEW from today is also being added as I […]Some out of the trials. He handles all ground and 1350m is a good kickoff point for him. 5L slower than Benchmark. get to the piney on magic round!Magic Millions 3yr old Guineas 1400m (Early guide for punters, numbers may change slightly before raceday) Don’t like finding favs in these big races but they are so often well placed in these restricted sales races. One of the best days of racing in Australia! Big fields and let’s hope some value. COMPASS ROSE – Gee she is a nice staying filly in the making. Subscribe to BrissyRaces! Name: Email: We respect your email privacy. A. A. Add battle of the bush to the Archer raceday. Let's see if it races that way or. The little query is the fact he had to scratch a fortnight ago with his bloods just not being 100%. The GCTC have got the tips and video up already. 80. 50. com. I have been made aware of TROY PASCOE and as I type this article he has trained seven winners from his last 25 runners, a terrific strike rate! I also hear he’s a. One on one interview with brissyraces. We have been flying at the Gold Coast Turf Clubs page recently. COM:One of my favourite clubs WARWICK is racing Tuesday. Races 1-3 they were off fence. Rainbow Connection. Not super keen this week and going from wet weather racing to a firm EF track should be a warning siren for punters. Byrne - 3 wins from 26 @11. Also. Focusing most of my time with the reviews, trial reviews and previews for the and over at. *Trial review with ones to follow and replays. 08 Jun 2023 21:32:48This is the latest from the QLD breeders association on the Hendra virus in Beaudesert. RACING. Race 5 #10 CONFESSED $6/$2. AS USUAL YOU CAN FIND MY PREVIEWS FOR TODAY AT:. Sat behind them and won without being pushed out. Here are a just a few that interest me, a few at bigger odds . Feel free to share the link with mates! LINK:. The Only Place to be this Australia Day Australia Day in Brisbane: A Day of Aussie Traditions Our proud national day of BBQs, beers and best mates is approaching, and as a Queensland icon, it’s our duty to throw an Australia Day Brisbane can be proud of. . A couple of dry tracks, don’t know what to do with myself. Some Wednesday races have been done for the THE RACE CLUB but not keen to make a best bet on here today. Flying at the moment and will be strong late. A. Hard to blackbook because she usually saves her best for the SC. Looks to have upside and better for the fresh win . *Not much luck at the GC where storms hit and it went from a 5 to a 7 to aAfter a great weekend at the races for Glenlogan Park sires, Stud Manager Steve Morley caught up with some of winning trainers to talk about their horses performances and we are lucky enough to share those interviews. Here’s a bit list of horses I’ll follow for a couple of runs depending what races they find obviously. 4-SETTING SAIL $2. Sent out the $1. The race by race preview of the Sunshine Coast will be up after scratchings on the linkWith a bit of EF racing coming up I thought it might be worth looking at some randowm stats for the locals as we head into the carnival STATS from 1st January - May 12th (Eagle farm only) JOCKEYS J. Race by race preview is up at RACING. The Gibbo’s tips page at the Gold Coast Turf clubs webpage is where you can get selections every Saturday for the coast. 30+ would be a bet. Have other meetings coming up but rain and storms predicted and I. Maybe more. Solid in harder grade last start. Dominated by the leaders and he settled last. For those that haven’t checked out the ‘GIBBOS TIPS’ page at the GCTC website, you should be heading over. Next Best (Race 7) - 7. Also a calcutta on at the Riverview Hotel 6:30 Thursday night. Troy is extremely well respected throughout the industry and is a genuinely nice bloke with racing intelligence running through his blood. A few scratching’s last week at the GCTC but some success as well. Being a QLD site we have to run the eye over the ARCHER in ROCKHAMPTON (even if it looks very tough) STREETS OF AVALON is likely to stalk APACHE CHASE and they have the runs on the board. An that’s not having a go at the jocks. HENDRA VIRUS ALERT. race 5 #1 tycoon evie $3. Best Bet (Race 6) - 4. She stole a couple of lengths and then just kept finding under pressure. RACING. 60 ‘the prohpet’ best: race 6 #2 namazuThe Murwillumbah cup is on Friday and it should be a great day down in god's country. The Desleigh Forster-trained gelding enjoyed a highly consistent and captivating 2021/22 season, winning four of nine starts, headlined by the Group 1 TAB Kingsford Smith Cup. VIEW ALL RACE SELECTIONS . UNCOMMON JAMES is a good one of. Going forward just gave the stablemate the sweetest of. Over the two days of the National Broodmare Sale almost $20 million was traded on 299 lots sold at an average price of $66,406 and. Hoping we can get the Quaddie again this week after last weeks paid pretty good. Scratchings help and trial was excellent. 50 mark is enticing. GIBBO’S BEST: I’m not going to make any at Eagle Farm on here. SNEAK PREVIEW- This horse is flying. Warwick Races 16/2 Race 1: Always trickyThe inaugural Battle of the Bush Series will bring 16 qualifiers from eight country regions to Doomben for a rich $100,000 final on Tattersall’s Tiara Day on June 23, 2018. Tierqualo (by Sequalo) led all the way to score a narrow win over Mr Armstrong in the Listed Falvelon Handicap (1200m). Let’s find a winner. It is simply a matter of if ZAAKI lets down on the track he will win. t -15% J. Not as confident but they should run well. Wednesday for The Race Club. John and Tony’s opinion is. 20 (Hopefully people got some of the better price with the early look). Three of them were best bets. Like everything about it and it can come to Brisbane and win for sure. ** EAGLE FARM EARLY LOOK has been successful the first two weeks and there is an article on the the front page of the site you2022 cox plate selections in order:. Just as important is the fact there are. au. Feel free to send link to mates. com. 30 and got a peach from JAG. ***The charity Brissyraces supports and would love others too as well is Pillars Of Strength. Thursday Race 2: 12-READILY REWARDED $61/$16. JAMAEA is a x2 G2 winner and clearly the highest rated horse here. ** For those on social media you can follow me on TWITTER: @brissyraces INSTAGRAM: @gibbo. Makes it very hard to line form up. He has a lot of strength and power about him with a correct and good action. com. Been good all prep and he was right over the top here. Track should be good and race well. GCTC TIPS: Gibbo’s Tips – Aquis Gold Coast Turf Club […] Latest Headlines Saturday racing Posted on November 24, 2023 | No Comments Weekend racing selections | Gibbo's brissyraces. Thought Stewart may have got it wrong on MAOTAI when he decided to just keep pushing and firing up the horse a little. And POITA was home for all money but beaten on the line. The 2022 TAB Queensland Racing Carnival is set to receive a prize money boost with no less than eight features to be bolstered next year and further innovation including for The Q22. Absolute horrible day Saturday so the confidence is down. I felt leading into the Spring Carnival it would be a great time to catch up with Troy and find outA few Brissyraces punters might have specked the ones at odds as READILY REWARDED and WILLO TITTO have shortened since printing this. Favs have had a decent record in recent years but there can be a very rough result thrown up from time to time, REBEL RAIDER and FIVEANDAHALFSTAR were $100 and $50 respectively. **We thank all these sponsors and as without them the site would not be what it is today. COM which hopefully helped the punters out. 3-EDIFICATION. Eagles Crag. First two runs of the prep were on Heavy 8 tracks that didn’t suit. au Weekend racing selections Rain and more rain, YUCK. race 7 #7 deepour $4. SWISS EXILE – Again, they went 8. I am not massive on stats as most things racing have now changed with overseas horses etc dominating the races 2000m+ and they are doing things completely different than what we expect, but here are a few things to consider. Our good run in the feature races continued with SirIt feels like summer is here, and with it, the 2022/23 Queensland Summer Racing Carnival is officially underway this weekend with the running of the Mooloolaba Cup at the Sunshine Coast. I. Just an early guide for you. Home; This Just In; The Punt; Wrap Up; Trainers; Breeding Buffs; Blackbookers; RSS Feed; Twitter; Facebook; Straddie Day on the punt. Tweets by @brissyraces. MAY BE UPDATED before Saturday 9am Sandown Race 10 No. au founder and expert tipster, Blair Gibson. but in no particular order. A. Brilliant two back and not much luck last start. Best Value (Race 8) - 4. Mr Palmer carved his name as a champion Queensland apprentice and was a two-time Stradbroke winner on Rouslan in 1995 and Daybreak Lover in 1984, before joining the RacingThis weeks article is on the Brissyraces home page. ALL-STAR MILE: 1-I'M THUNDERSTRUCK $6 2-ALLIGATOR BLOOD 4-MR BRIGHTSIDE 3-CASCADIAN SLIPPER: 8-KING'S GAMBIT $9 5-CYLINDER 4-DON CORLEONE 15-STEEL CITY Todays episode of TWO FLOGS has an interview with Qld. Racing Queensland and the Brisbane Racing Club said the decision was taken as a precaution toShe will only get better on the bigger tracks where she can through the gears. Talented mare Spright went from bridesmaid to bride as her trademark devastating turn of foot catapulted her into the Group 1 club in today’s TAB Classic at Morphettville. THE HARROVIAN is a gem and has run well in races like the All-star mile and the G1 Stradbroke. VIEW ALL RACE SELECTIONS . I seem to find a lot of horses who don’t let down or put in a horrible run for no reason on this track. Track has been playing to the front so that is what I have focused on when doing the form. GAMBU – This might seem a weird one to blackbook. Very quiet weekend for me. Lots of even races though and Quaddie might pay a mint. The PERCY SYKES: 1200m. JMac goes on and that can change this horse's luck around . Here are my thoughts for what it's worth. Horrible week last week but 2/2 at the midweeks has us back on track. This year there looks to be 5-6 winning hopes and an interesting twist with the favRace 1: 3. The Snowden's are as good as they get and love this prep forVale Mr Bede Murray The wider racing industry is today mourning the passing of well-known South Coast trainer, Mr Bede Murray, following a long and courageous battle with illness. Jo McKinnon the face of Cairns. Be Water My Friend. Well bred, bit of upside and set to peak. Tony will serve 2 years on the sidelines while Con will do 9 months. Looking at times that wasn't the case and he had his chance. No value about them though.